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's a preview of the presidential debate. because joe biden now, because of the way that barack obama failed by being too passive, biden is going to have to be aggressive in this debate. that's not an easy thing to capitol hill bright. you cato calibrate. you can go overboard. he's opposing a young, earnest guy, so it's not an easy thing to do. biden has been through this many times. paul ryan has never been on a stage this large. and i remember during the convention, in the first 10 minutes of his convention speech, he was really nervous. so you know -- it's not sure how this will come out. >> sarah palin had never been on a national stage when she debated joe biden and the consensus is she had a draw. joe biden i think has had a long, distinguished career, but he's become a little rusty and a little excitable on the campaign trail. >> schieffer: what do you think paul ryan has to do here? i'm sure no one would advise him to take the tack that sarah palin did, because while she caused a lot of talk, i think in the end, she was not a plus for that campaign. you may disagree, but-- >> she fou
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